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  1. [NSPX]NSPX

  2. [NSPX]NSPX
    unironic case of "The true ARG were the friends we made along the way"

    [FWR]FWR

    true
  3. In fact, that hits close to home for me.

  4. [NSPX]NSPX

    y'know, one pro of being total niche in the community is fact we stand out amongst the oversaturated

  5. [FWR]FWR

    This place is a community after all
  6. [NSPX]NSPX
    y'know, one pro of being total niche in the community is fact we stand out amongst the oversaturated

    [FWR]FWR

    Yeah.
  7. Praise it brother.
  8. Though here's a thought. Wait until this gets popular.
    neuro7
    1

  9. [NSPX]NSPX

    it won't
  10. ever.
  11. probably,
  12. Angi video despite being very popular didn't do much
  13. when lore is solved people will have no reason to join the thread
  14. And big swarms are too busy repeating same weird joke for 200th time

  15. [FWR]FWR

  16. Just wait and see Though I can't make promises.

  17. [NSPX]NSPX

    well on topic of dooming
  18. there's this pixel canvas
  19. 2 canvases from now we're likely gonna do a lot ARG art
  20. totally not because of me

  21. [FWR]FWR

    Is it gonna be study again?

  22. [NSPX]NSPX

    yes, and more than one
  23. but that's still 2 months away
  24. [NSPX]NSPX
    And big swarms are too busy repeating same weird joke for 200th time

    [FWR]FWR

    I think you've become a part of it
  25. How about Sister Sama for a change?
  26. There's clearly a character for her.
  27. [FWR]FWR
    I think you've become a part of it

    [NSPX]NSPX

    Most people still consider study to be hiyori

  28. [FWR]FWR

  29. [NSPX]NSPX

    Unless Study magically explodes in popularity
  30. which won't ever happen
  31. that's unlikely

  32. [FWR]FWR

    hey um Do you want to simplify part one of the Soundcloud? I'm too lazy to.
  33. It's for a project.
  35. Any of you can do it if you want

  36. Soundcloud part 1 was solved using three hints
  37. first: start with x end with y odd one out. open in firefox second: the description contained an AES encrypted text third: the soundcloud used to contain a hidden image that had a specific string in its file name

  38. [NSPX]NSPX

    wait
  39. did we check file names of current soundcloud?
    NeuroHuh
    1

  40. they took that specific string, looked for x and y in that string and trimmed it off at these points, and then removed the "odd one out" which was a number in a string made of almost entirely letters
  41. the end result was a valid AES key that let them decrypt the description, giving them the Evil quote that has confused us for a long time

  42. [FWR]FWR

    If you'd like, you can do part two as well, since I'm also too lazy to do that.
  43. Don't worry, you will be credited.
  44. the end result was a valid AES key that let them decrypt the description, giving them the Evil quote that has confused us for a long time

    additionally, the soundcloud got updated at a later point (still part 1). The profile now displayed one song as being on the profile, but the song was privated which meant we couldn't see what it was
  45. [NSPX]NSPX
    did we check file names of current soundcloud?

    I don't think those would hold many hints
  46. [FWR]FWR
    If you'd like, you can do part two as well, since I'm also too lazy to do that.

    I forgor

  47. [FWR]FWR

    oh its ok
  48. Maybe I'll try and simplify it myself. But I don't know if I would be able to do that.
  49. I'm looking through the google doc
  50. [NSPX]NSPX
    did we check file names of current soundcloud?

    I'm pretty sure soundcloud has its own internal naming system for its files, which means the new files' names can't solve old puzzles

  51. [NSPX]NSPX

    also nevermind, it wasn't file names, it was base64
    别提了，不是文件名的问题，是 base64 的问题
  52. and true, we have nothing to suggest we can get anything out of base 64
    我们没有任何证据表明我们能从基地获得任何东西 64
  53. that pfp is still sus tho
    不过，Pfp 还是很可疑
  54. [NSPX]NSPX
    also nevermind, it wasn't file names, it was base64

    ah it was not the file name but the image URL, my bad
    啊，不是文件名，而是图像 URL，我的错

  55. [NURO]NURO

    i am not backreading all of this
    我不是在回读这一切

  56. [NSPX]NSPX

    nothing really worth a read
    不值得一读

  57. [FWR]FWR

    Now part two is a lot more interesting.
    现在，第二部分就有趣多了。

  58. [FWR]FWR

    Has the well run dry for logical theories? Is it time to fully stretch them out as far as we can?
    逻辑理论已经枯竭了吗？现在是否到了尽我们所能将其充分延伸的时候了？

  59. [FWR]FWR

    I wonder if in universe this story takes place in modern day.
    我想知道这个故事是否发生在现代。
  60. I bet you could get an accurate time if you analyze the code and see when they work. Like at what time a program was made in order to calculate such code the work right?
    我打赌，如果你分析一下代码，看看它们是什么时候工作的，就能得到准确的时间。比如，为了计算这些代码的工作时间，程序是在什么时候编制的？
  61. If you could get the time of the update then you could make a few guesses for when this takes place.
    如果您能得到更新的时间，那么您就可以猜测一下更新发生的时间。

  62. if we go by the Numbers III then the earliest that song could take place is the year 2000
    如果根据数字 III，那么这首歌最早可能发生在 2000 年
    图片
  63. it's probably supposed to be in modern day
    可能应该是在现代

  64. [FWR]FWR

    I bet you can get a much more direct year than 2000.
    我敢打赌，你一定能找到比 2000 年更直接的年份。
  65. Corrected. I bet if if we look into all the codes that we used in this ARG and find where the program uses that or when it's able to functionally use that, then you could find like a patch update on C# On a specific day? At a specific year.
    已更正。我敢打赌，如果我们研究一下我们在这个 ARG 中使用的所有代码，并找出程序在哪些地方使用了这些代码，或者什么时候能够在功能上使用这些代码，那么你就能找到类似于 C# 在特定日期的补丁更新？在哪一年？
  66. You can find the earliest year. C# Has the capability of running the codes we see in this ARG.
    您可以找到最早的年份。C# 有能力运行我们在这个 ARG 中看到的代码。
  67. What's a theory I can cover in a video?
    我可以在视频中介绍什么理论？
  68. [FWR]FWR
    I bet you can get a much more direct year than 2000.

    while it's probably possible, I don't think there's much point to analyzing that stuff specifically
    虽然有可能，但我不认为具体分析这些东西有什么意义

  69. [FWR]FWR

    But it'll give us a timeline
    但它会给我们一个时间表

  70. we have very little indication of a timeline or what kinds of timespans we're working with
    我们几乎不知道时间表，也不知道我们的工作时间跨度有多大

  71. [FWR]FWR

    What's the most newest C# code That only works on the latest version
    只有在最新版本上才能运行的最新 C# 代码是什么？
  72. That we have seen in this ARG
    我们在这个 ARG 中看到的
  73. we have very little indication of a timeline or what kinds of timespans we're working with

    we don't know if the Numbers songs take place at the same time as Study/Public static void, we don't know when MoL takes place relative to the other songs with Study in them, we don't know when candles takes place we don't know how much time passes in between the "knocking incident" and the soundcloud update etc.
    我们不知道 Numbers 歌曲是否与 Study/Public static void 同时出现，我们不知道 MoL 与其他包含 Study 的歌曲相比何时出现，我们不知道蜡烛何时出现，我们不知道 "敲门事件 "与 Soundcloud 更新之间相隔多长时间，等等。
  74. the timeline in between the songs isn't even clear, it seems intentionally jumbled even
    歌曲之间的时间线甚至都不清晰，似乎是故意弄得杂乱无章，甚至
  75. a starting year just doesn't help much
    起始年没有什么帮助

  76. [FWR]FWR

    OK, can you direct me to all the codes? That we used in this ARG that happened in universe.
    好吧，你能告诉我所有的代码吗？我们在宇宙 ARG 中使用的代码。
  77. I'll try looking up the earliest thing that can run such codes.
    我会试着查找最早能运行此类代码的东西。
  78. Then I'll give you a time set. Of years if I can get it.
    那我就给你设定一个时间。 如果我能得到的话
  79. Or whatever code that the AI is using.
    或者人工智能使用的任何代码。

  80. the Numbers III code is over the discord character limit
    数字 III 代码超过了 Discord 字符数限制 :neurOMEGALUL:
  81. the Numbers III code is over the discord character limit

    [FWR]FWR

    Send me a link with a Google doc.
    给我发一个谷歌文档链接。
  82. Just make a google doc and paste the code in there.
    只需创建一个谷歌文档，然后将代码粘贴进去即可。

  83. I'll just send it in a txt
    我就用 txt 发送吧
    using System;


class Program
{
   static void Main()
    展开
    Num.txt3 KB

  84. [FWR]FWR

    alright
    好了
  85. I'll just send it in a txt

    [FWR]FWR

    Earliest time this code could be run: February 13, 2002
    运行此代码的最早时间： 2002 年 2 月 13 日
  86. Any other code you know
    您知道的其他代码
  87. Maybe you could narrow it down a little more. If we get another code.
    也许你可以再缩小一下范围。如果我们得到另一个密码
  88. On what system: A PC running Windows 98/2000/XP with .NET Framework 1.0 and a C# compiler such as Visual Studio .NET 2002 or csc.exe.
    在什么系统上？ 运行 Windows 98/2000/XP 的个人电脑，装有 .NET Framework 1.0 和 C# 编译器，如 Visual Studio .NET 2002 或 csc.exe。

  89. I can't remember any specific examples of code rn
    我记不起任何具体的代码例子了

  90. [FWR]FWR

    Now if only we knew where study lived with her roomate 'cause then I could check the price range.
    现在，如果我们知道书房和她的室友住在哪里就好了，因为那样我就能查到价格范围了。

  91. we haven't heard anyone say anything about money in the entire ARG
    在整个游戏中，我们没有听到任何人说过钱的事
  92. realistically it probably takes place in the 2010s (early or late, we don't know how the story develops)
    现实中的故事可能发生在 2010 年代（早期或晚期，我们不知道故事是如何发展的）。

  93. [FWR]FWR

    If she can have the earliest equipment that runs this stuff. Then we have to look into the price range and what a high schooler can afford or not a high schooler. She's technically a university student

  94. we don't know how rich her family is

  95. [FWR]FWR

    Well, what if we consider her having the average salary of a university student?

  96. that still requires assumptions

  97. [FWR]FWR

    Well, assumptions are good. If we can get a result that leads to the right outcome that leads to the story we get

  98. while I would assume her family is middle class that's not something I'd stake anything on

  99. [FWR]FWR

    She could be somewhere in the uk or In Japan.
  100. Let's starter on normal terms. Maybe middle class if she lives in a middle class area and university.

  101. this is a better cutoff criterion
    图片

  102. [FWR]FWR

    Good, now we need to check for the equipment. What would be the cheapest equipment to buy that runs the code?

  103. any laptop

  104. [FWR]FWR

    hmm
  105. Wait, give me a picture Of the room with that big computer

  106. Study was training an AI, the C# code is absolutely not a problem to run with that hardware
  107. 图片
  108. 点击查看附件

    [FWR]FWR

    That doesn't look like a laptop.
  109. What does that tech look like the most?

  110. any computer can run basic C#

  111. [FWR]FWR

    What's the most affordable?
  112. At what year?
  113. For a University students.

  114. all of that really depends on your needs
  115. since Study was training an AI she absolutely was not using something basic

  116. [FWR]FWR

    Ah, that gives us a clue. So it must be higher tech then.
  117. But what's the earliest tech that can run an AI like Neurosama
  118. since Study was training an AI she absolutely was not using something basic

    or maybe she did the training on a server she rented instead, but that'd still cost money

  119. [FWR]FWR

    How much?
  120. She must be broke by the time she's running the AI
  121. [FWR]FWR
    How much?

    I don't know, I've never trained an AI

  122. [FWR]FWR

    I wonder what the training equipment is
  123. Oh well. Put this on the back burner. It may help us later
  124. Unless we can know how much a server is at the time she buys it.
  125. That's if the story starts off with everything already purchased.
  126. February 13, 2002 That gives us at least. A reference point.
  127. At least we know it doesn't take place in the Cold War
  128. [FWR]FWR
    I wonder if in universe this story takes place in modern day.

    [NURO]NURO

    it is possible to come up with a very specific timeframe if you associate certain similarities between study and vedal though that relies on information about vedal that we're not supposed to know, so i haven't written it down anywhere its not very important anyways. story takes place in modern day.
  129. [NURO]NURO
    it is possible to come up with a very specific timeframe if you associate certain similarities between study and vedal though that relies on information about vedal that we're not supposed to know, so i haven't written it down anywhere its not very important anyways. story takes place in modern day.

    [FWR]FWR

    Why are you taking this from Vedal?
  130. Make up your own story.
  131. We can make up an idea for where study is.
  132. And timeline, we do not need private information about Vedal
  133. Please do this without.
  134. If you're suggesting, we need to in order to get. A specific timeline. Then I say no.
  135. We can make up a time frame that can make sense with the story. It doesn't need to relate to vedal at all
  136. You can get the specifics about when the story takes place. Ideally, without knowing any of Vedal's private information, you do know that, right?
  137. We can get a good look at a timeline
  138. In universe.

  139. [FWR]FWR

    Well, all I need to know now is what technology can run in AI like Neurosama at the earliest.
  140. 点击查看附件

    [FWR]FWR

    That can fit. In the price range. Of a university student. To get a same/similar set up to what we see in this image
  141. [FWR]FWR
    Please do this without.

    [NSPX]NSPX

    You are aware that's common sense right?
    😭
    1

  142. [FWR]FWR

    Yes.

  143. [NSPX]NSPX

    ahh reminds that one time someone schizo'ed coordinates which happened to be a military base
  145. [NSPX]NSPX
    ahh reminds that one time someone schizo'ed coordinates which happened to be a military base

    [FWR]FWR

    I'm sorry, what? Where do you get this stuff from

  146. [NSPX]NSPX

    that happened once
  147. I dont remember how and why but it did happen
  148. [NSPX]NSPX
    ahh reminds that one time someone schizo'ed coordinates which happened to be a military base

    [FWR]FWR

    Alert: the enemy has taken our intelligence.
  149. [FWR]FWR
    She could be somewhere in the uk or In Japan.

    [MEOW]MEOW

    I would go Japan because of the Public Static Void video, but maybe the Little Sister is overseas?
  150. That would explain the phone number being UK
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